## Taanit Daf 30a

###### Taanit 30a:1
[Taanit 30a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:1)

מֵ״חַגָּה״. וּמַאן דְּאָמַר כּוּלּוֹ אָסוּר — מֵ״חׇדְשָׁהּ״, וּמַאן דְּאָמַר כׇּל הַשַּׁבָּת כּוּלָּהּ אָסוּר — מִ״שַּׁבַּתָּהּ״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
derives **from** the phrase **“her Festival”** that acts of mirth and rejoicing are prohibited from the New Moon, which is considered like a Festival. **And the one who said** that these activities are **prohibited** during **the entire** month learns this **from** the phrase **“her New Moon.” And the one who said** that acts of rejoicing are **prohibited** during **the entire week** of the Ninth of Av, derives this **from** the phrase **“her Shabbat,”** which also means a week.


###### Taanit 30a:2
[Taanit 30a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:2)

אָמַר רָבָא: הֲלָכָה כְּרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל. וְאָמַר רָבָא: הֲלָכָה כְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר. וְתַרְוַיְיהוּ לְקוּלָּא, וּצְרִיכָא. דְּאִי אַשְׁמוֹעִינַן הֲלָכָה כְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר, הֲוָה אָמֵינָא: אֲפִילּוּ מֵרֹאשׁ חֹדֶשׁ, קָמַשְׁמַע לַן הֲלָכָה כְּרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
With regard to the *halakha* itself, **Rava said: The *halakha* is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel. And Rava** also **said** that **the *halakha* is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Meir.** The Gemara remarks: **And both of** these rulings are intended **as a leniency. And** it is **necessary** for Rava to state both rulings, **for had he taught us** only that **the *halakha* is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Meir, I would have said** that the mourning practices are obligatory **even from the New Moon,** as maintained by Rabbi Meir. Therefore, Rava **teaches us** that the ***halakha* is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel,** that the restrictions of mourning do not apply until the week of the Ninth of Av.


###### Taanit 30a:3
[Taanit 30a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:3)

וְאִי אַשְׁמוֹעִינַן הֲלָכָה כְּרַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל, הֲוָה אָמֵינָא: אֲפִילּוּ לְאַחֲרָיו, קָמַשְׁמַע לַן הֲלָכָה כְּרַבִּי מֵאִיר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And had he taught us** only that the ***halakha* is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, I would have said** that the prohibitions apply **even after** the fast, until the end of the week. Consequently, Rava **teaches us** that the ***halakha* is in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Meir.** The prohibitions apply only until the Ninth of Av itself, not afterward.


###### Taanit 30a:4
[Taanit 30a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:4)

עֶרֶב תִּשְׁעָה בְּאָב לֹא יֹאכַל אָדָם שְׁנֵי תַבְשִׁילִין כּוּ׳. אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא מִשֵּׁשׁ שָׁעוֹת וּלְמַעְלָה, אֲבָל מִשֵּׁשׁ שָׁעוֹת וּלְמַטָּה — מוּתָּר. וְאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בִּסְעוּדָה הַמַּפְסִיק בָּהּ, אֲבָל בִּסְעוּדָה שֶׁאֵינוֹ מַפְסִיק בָּהּ — מוּתָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna taught: On **the eve of the Ninth of Av, a person may not eat two cooked dishes** in one meal. **Rav Yehuda said: They taught** that one may not partake of a meal with two dishes **only from six hours** of the day **and onward,** but **from six hours and earlier** it is **permitted. And Rav Yehuda** also **said: They taught** that it is prohibited to eat two dishes **only in the concluding meal** before beginning the fast. **However, in a non-concluding meal** it is **permitted** to eat two cooked dishes.


###### Taanit 30a:5
[Taanit 30a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:5)

וְתַרְוַיְיהוּ לְקוּלָּא, וּצְרִיכָא. דְּאִי אַשְׁמְעִינַן בִּסְעוּדָה הַמַּפְסִיק בָּהּ, הֲוָה אָמֵינָא: אֲפִילּוּ מִשֵּׁשׁ שָׁעוֹת וּלְמַטָּה — קָמַשְׁמַע לַן מִשֵּׁשׁ שָׁעוֹת וּלְמַעְלָה. וְאִי אַשְׁמְעִינַן מִשֵּׁשׁ שָׁעוֹת וּלְמַעְלָה, הֲוָה אָמֵינָא: אֲפִילּוּ בִּסְעוּדָה שֶׁאֵינוֹ מַפְסִיק בָּהּ — קָמַשְׁמַע לַן בִּסְעוּדָה הַמַּפְסִיק בָּהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara comments: **And both of** these rulings are intended **as a leniency. And** it is **necessary** for Rav Yehuda to state them both, **for had he taught us** that this *halakha* is referring only **to the concluding meal, I would have said** that this applies **even from six hours and earlier.** Rav Yehuda therefore **teaches us** that it applies only **from six hours and onward. And had he taught us** only that it is prohibited to eat two dishes **from six hours and onward, I would have said** that this applies **even to a meal by which he does not stop** eating. Rav Yehuda therefore **teaches us** that it applies only **to the concluding meal.**


###### Taanit 30a:6
[Taanit 30a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:6)

תַּנְיָא כְּלִישָּׁנָא קַמָּא. תַּנְיָא כְּלִישָּׁנָא בָּתְרָא. תַּנְיָא כְּלִישָּׁנָא בָּתְרָא: הַסּוֹעֵד עֶרֶב תִּשְׁעָה בְּאָב, אִם עָתִיד לִסְעוֹד סְעוּדָה אַחֶרֶת — מוּתָּר לֶאֱכוֹל בָּשָׂר וְלִשְׁתּוֹת יַיִן, וְאִם לָאו — אָסוּר לֶאֱכוֹל בָּשָׂר וְלִשְׁתּוֹת יַיִן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara comments: **It is taught** in a *baraita* **in accordance with the first version,** and **it is taught** in a *baraita* **in accordance with the second version.** The Gemara elaborates: **It is taught** in a *baraita* **in accordance with the second version,** as follows: With regard to **one who dines on the eve of the Ninth of Av, if he will eat another meal, he is permitted to eat meat and to drink wine** during this first meal. **But if** he does **not** intend to eat another meal, he is **prohibited to eat meat and to drink wine.**


###### Taanit 30a:7
[Taanit 30a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:7)

תַּנְיָא כְּלִישָּׁנָא קַמָּא: עֶרֶב תִּשְׁעָה בְּאָב לֹא יֹאכַל אָדָם שְׁנֵי תַבְשִׁילִין, לֹא יֹאכַל בָּשָׂר וְלֹא יִשְׁתֶּה יַיִן. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: יְשַׁנֶּה. אָמַר רַבִּי יְהוּדָה: כֵּיצַד מְשַׁנֶּה? אִם הָיָה רָגִיל לֶאֱכוֹל שְׁנֵי תַבְשִׁילִין — יֹאכַל מִין אֶחָד, וְאִם הָיָה רָגִיל לִסְעוֹד בַּעֲשָׂרָה בְּנֵי אָדָם — סוֹעֵד בַּחֲמִשָּׁה, הָיָה רָגִיל לִשְׁתּוֹת עֲשָׂרָה כּוֹסוֹת — שׁוֹתֶה חֲמִשָּׁה כּוֹסוֹת. בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים מִשֵּׁשׁ שָׁעוֹת וּלְמַעְלָה, אֲבָל מִשֵּׁשׁ שָׁעוֹת וּלְמַטָּה — מוּתָּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**It is taught** in a *baraita* **in accordance with the first version:** On **the eve of the Ninth of Av, a person may not eat two cooked dishes.** Furthermore, one may **neither eat meat nor drink wine. Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says:** One must **adjust** and decrease the amount he eats. Rabbi Yehuda said: How should **one adjust** his meal? **If he is accustomed to eat two cooked dishes** at each meal, he should **eat** only **one type** of food; **and if he is accustomed to dine** in the company **of ten people,** he should **dine with** only **five;** and if **he is accustomed to drinking ten cups** of wine, he should **drink** only **five cups. In what** case **is this statement said? From six hours and onward; however, from six hours and earlier** all these practices are **permitted.**


###### Taanit 30a:8
[Taanit 30a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:8)

תַּנְיָא אִידַּךְ: עֶרֶב תִּשְׁעָה בְּאָב לֹא יֹאכַל אָדָם שְׁנֵי תַבְשִׁילִין, לֹא יֹאכַל בָּשָׂר וְלֹא יִשְׁתֶּה יַיִן, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי מֵאִיר. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: יְשַׁנֶּה. וּמְמַעֵט בַּבָּשָׂר וּבַיַּיִן. כֵּיצַד מְמַעֵט? אִם הָיָה רָגִיל לֶאֱכוֹל לִיטְרָא בָּשָׂר — יֹאכַל חֲצִי לִיטְרָא, הָיָה רָגִיל לִשְׁתּוֹת לוֹג יַיִן — יִשְׁתֶּה חֲצִי לוֹג יַיִן, וְאִם אֵינוֹ רָגִיל כׇּל עִיקָּר — אָסוּר. רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: אִם הָיָה רָגִיל לֶאֱכוֹל צְנוֹן אוֹ מָלִיחַ אַחַר סְעוּדָּתוֹ — הָרְשׁוּת בְּיָדוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**It is taught** in **another** *baraita*: On **the eve of the Ninth of Av, a person may not eat two cooked dishes,** and he **may neither eat meat nor drink wine;** this is **the statement of Rabbi Meir. And the Rabbis say:** One must **adjust and reduce** his consumption **of meat and wine. How does one reduce** his meat and wine? **If he is accustomed to eating a liter of meat** in his meal, he should **eat half a liter;** if **he is accustomed to drinking a *log* of wine,** he should **drink half a *log* of wine; and if he is not accustomed** to eating meat or drinking wine **at all,** it is **prohibited** for him to do so at all. **Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: If he is accustomed to eating a radish or a salted** dish **after** his meal, **he has permission** to do so on the eve of the Ninth of Av, as they are not considered an additional dish.


###### Taanit 30a:9
[Taanit 30a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:9)

תַּנְיָא אִידַּךְ: כֹּל שֶׁהוּא מִשּׁוּם תִּשְׁעָה בְּאָב — אָסוּר לֶאֱכוֹל בָּשָׂר וְאָסוּר לִשְׁתּוֹת יַיִן וְאָסוּר לִרְחוֹץ. כׇּל שֶׁאֵינוֹ מִשּׁוּם תִּשְׁעָה בְּאָב — מוּתָּר לֶאֱכוֹל בָּשָׂר וְלִשְׁתּוֹת יַיִן וְאָסוּר לִרְחוֹץ. רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל בְּרַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר מִשּׁוּם אָבִיו: כׇּל שָׁעָה שֶׁמּוּתָּר לֶאֱכוֹל בָּשָׂר — מוּתָּר לִרְחוֹץ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**It is taught** in **another** *baraita*: In **any** meal that is eaten **due to** the fast of **the Ninth of Av,** it is **prohibited to eat meat; and** it is **prohibited to drink wine; and** it is likewise **prohibited to bathe** in anticipation of the fast. However, in **any** meal that is **not due to the Ninth of Av,** i.e., one is eating the meal in order that he shouldn’t be hungry on the Ninth of Av, it is **permitted to eat meat and to drink wine, but** it is nevertheless **prohibited to bathe** at that time. **Rabbi Yishmael, son of Rabbi Yosei, said in the name of his father:** For the **entire time that one is permitted to eat meat,** he is likewise **permitted to bathe.**


###### Taanit 30a:10
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תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: כׇּל מִצְוֹת הַנּוֹהֲגוֹת בְּאָבֵל — נוֹהֲגוֹת בְּתִשְׁעָה בְּאָב; אָסוּר בַּאֲכִילָה וּבִשְׁתִיָּה, וּבְסִיכָה, וּבִנְעִילַת הַסַּנְדָּל, וּבְתַשְׁמִישׁ הַמִּטָּה. וְאָסוּר לִקְרוֹת בַּתּוֹרָה בַּנְּבִיאִים וּבַכְּתוּבִים, וְלִשְׁנוֹת בַּמִּשְׁנָה בַּתַּלְמוּד וּבַמִּדְרָשׁ וּבָהֲלָכוֹת וּבָאַגָּדוֹת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Sages taught: All mitzvot practiced by a mourner are** likewise **practiced on the Ninth of Av:** It is **prohibited** to engage **in eating, and in drinking, and in smearing** oil on one’s body, **and in wearing shoes, and in conjugal relations.** It is **prohibited** to read **from the Torah, from the Prophets, and from the Writings, or to study from the Mishna, from the Gemara, and from midrash, and from** collections of ***halakhot*, and from** collections of ***aggadot*.**


###### Taanit 30a:11
[Taanit 30a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:11)

אֲבָל קוֹרֵא הוּא בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁאֵינוֹ רָגִיל לִקְרוֹת, וְשׁוֹנֶה בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁאֵינוֹ רָגִיל לִשְׁנוֹת, וְקוֹרֵא בְּקִינוֹת בְּאִיּוֹב, וּבִדְבָרִים הָרָעִים שֶׁבְּיִרְמְיָה. וְתִינוֹקוֹת שֶׁל בֵּית רַבָּן בְּטֵלִין, מִשּׁוּם שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״פִּקּוּדֵי ה׳ יְשָׁרִים מְשַׂמְּחֵי לֵב״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**However, one may read from a place** in the Bible **that he is unaccustomed to reading,** as it will be difficult for him and he will not derive pleasure from it, **and he** may likewise **study from a place** of the Talmud **that he is unaccustomed to studying. And one may read from** the book of **Lamentations; from** the book of **Job; and from the evil matters in Jeremiah,** i.e., his prophecies of doom. **And schoolchildren interrupt** their studies for the day **because it is stated: “The precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart”** (Psalms 19:9).


###### Taanit 30a:12
[Taanit 30a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:12)

רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: אַף אֵינוֹ קוֹרֵא בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁאֵינוֹ רָגִיל לִקְרוֹת, וְאֵינוֹ שׁוֹנֶה בִּמְקוֹם שֶׁאֵינוֹ רָגִיל לִשְׁנוֹת. אֲבָל קוֹרֵא הוּא בְּאִיּוֹב וּבְקִינוֹת וּבִדְבָרִים הָרָעִים שֶׁבְּיִרְמְיָהוּ. וְתִינוֹקוֹת שֶׁל בֵּית רַבָּן בְּטֵלִים בּוֹ, מִשּׁוּם שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״פִּקּוּדֵי ה׳ יְשָׁרִים מְשַׂמְּחֵי לֵב״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Yehuda says:** One may **not even read from a place** in the Bible **that he is unaccustomed to reading, nor** may one **study from a place** of the Talmud **that he is unaccustomed to studying.** However, **one may read from Job, and from Lamentations, and from the evil matters of Jeremiah. And schoolchildren interrupt** their studies **on that** day **because it is stated: “The precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart”** (Psalms 19:9).


###### Taanit 30a:13
[Taanit 30a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:13)

לֹא יֹאכַל בָּשָׂר וְלֹא יִשְׁתֶּה יַיִן. תָּנָא: אֲבָל אוֹכֵל הוּא בָּשָׂר מָלִיחַ וְשׁוֹתֶה יַיִן מִגִּתּוֹ. בָּשָׂר מָלִיחַ עַד כַּמָּה? אָמַר רַב חִינָּנָא בַּר כָּהֲנָא מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דִּשְׁמוּאֵל: כׇּל זְמַן שֶׁהוּא כִּשְׁלָמִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ The mishna taught that one may **neither eat meat nor drink wine.** A *tanna* **taught** in the *Tosefta*: **However, one may eat** heavily **salted meat and drink wine from his press,** i.e., wine that has not finished fermenting. The Gemara inquires: With regard to **salted meat, how long** must this meat remain in salt before it is permitted? **Rav Ḥinnana bar Kahana said in the name of Shmuel: As long as it is like peace-offerings,** which could be eaten for two days and one night after they were sacrificed. After this time has passed, it is no longer called meat. Therefore, if it was salted for longer than this, it may be eaten on the eve of the Ninth of Av.


###### Taanit 30a:14
[Taanit 30a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:14)

וְיַיִן מִגִּתּוֹ עַד כַּמָּה? כׇּל זְמַן שֶׁהוּא תּוֹסֵס. תָּנָא: יַיִן תּוֹסֵס אֵין בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם גִּילּוּי, וְכַמָּה תְּסִיסָתוֹ — שְׁלֹשָׁה יָמִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: **And** with regard to **wine from his press, until when** is wine considered from his press? **As long as it is fermenting.** A *tanna* **taught** in a *baraita*: **Wine that is fermenting** does **not have** a problem **with regard to exposed** liquids, as there is no concern that a snake will leave its venom in that wine. **And how long** is **its fermenting** period? **Three days** from the time the grapes were pressed.


###### Taanit 30a:15
[Taanit 30a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Taanit/r/30a:15)

אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר רַב: כָּךְ הָיָה מִנְהָגוֹ שֶׁל רַבִּי יְהוּדָה בְּרַבִּי אִילְעַאי: עֶרֶב תִּשְׁעָה בְּאָב מְבִיאִין לוֹ פַּת חֲרֵבָה בְּמֶלַח, וְיוֹשֵׁב

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Yehuda said** that **Rav said: This was the custom of Rabbi Yehuda, son of Rabbi Ilai.** On **the eve of the Ninth of Av,** near the evening, **they** would **bring him stale bread with salt, and** he would **sit**