## Temurah Daf 19a

###### Temurah 19a:1
[Temurah 19a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:1)

אֲבָל גַּבֵּי תְּמוּרַת וְלַד אָשָׁם, דְּלֵיכָּא שֵׁם עוֹלָה עַל אִמּוֹ, מוֹדֵי רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר דִּבְדָמָיו אִין הוּא עַצְמוֹ לָא קָרֵב.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**But with regard to the offspring of the substitute of a guilt offering, where there is no burnt offering status for its mother,** as the animal for which it was substituted was a guilt offering, **Rabbi Elazar concedes that** an animal purchased **with its money,** received from selling the offspring, **yes,** it is sacrificed as a burnt offering, but the offspring **itself is not sacrificed** as a burnt offering.


###### Temurah 19a:2
[Temurah 19a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:2)

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: וְכִי בָּעֵי רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר שֵׁם עוֹלָה עַל אִמּוֹ? וְהָא תַּנְיָא: הַמַּפְרִישׁ נְקֵבָה לְפִסְחוֹ — תִּרְעֶה עַד (שֶׁיִּסְתָּאֵב) [שֶׁתִּסְתָּאֵב], וְתִמָּכֵר, וְיָבִיא בְּדָמֶיהָ פֶּסַח. יָלְדָה — יִרְעֶה עַד שֶׁיִּסְתָּאֵב, וְיִמָּכֵר, וְיָבִיא בְּדָמָיו פֶּסַח.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye raised an objection** to Rava: **And does Rabbi Elazar require that there be burnt offering status for its mother,** in order for the offspring to be sacrificed as a burnt offering? **But isn’t it taught** in a *baraita*: In the case of **one who designates a female** animal **for his Paschal offering,** which must be a male, the animal is left to **graze until it becomes unfit, and it is** then **sold and he brings a Paschal offering with** the **money** received for **its** sale. If the female animal **gave birth** to a male,the offspring may not be sacrificed as a Paschal offering despite the fact that it is a male. Rather, **it** is left to **graze until it becomes unfit, and** then **it is sold and he brings a Paschal offering with** the **money** received from **its** sale.


###### Temurah 19a:3
[Temurah 19a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:3)

נִשְׁתַּיְּירָה אַחַר הַפֶּסַח, תִּרְעֶה עַד (שֶׁיִּסְתָּאֵב) [שֶׁתִּסְתָּאֵב], וְיָבִיא בְּדָמֶיהָ שְׁלָמִים. יָלְדָה, יִרְעֶה עַד שֶׁיִּסְתָּאֵב, וְיִמָּכֵר וְיָבִיא בְּדָמָיו שְׁלָמִים. רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: הוּא עַצְמוֹ יִקְרַב שְׁלָמִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If the animal **remained** without a blemish until **after Passover, it** is left to **graze until it becomes unfit, and he brings a peace offering with** the **money** received for **its** sale. If **it gave birth** to a male after Passover, the offspring too is left to **graze until it becomes unfit, and** then **it is sold, and he brings a peace offering with** the **money** received for **its** sale. **Rabbi Elazar** disagrees in the latter case and **says:** The offspring **itself is sacrificed as a peace offering.**


###### Temurah 19a:4
[Temurah 19a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:4)

וְהָא הָכָא, דְּלֵיכָּא שֵׁם שְׁלָמִים עַל אִמּוֹ, וְאָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר יִקְרַב שְׁלָמִים. אֲמַר לֵיהּ (רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר) [רָבָא]: ״אַחַר הַפֶּסַח״ קָא אָמְרַתְּ? שָׁאנֵי אַחַר הַפֶּסַח, דְּמוֹתַר פֶּסַח גּוּפֵיהּ קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Abaye explains his objection: **But here,** it is a case **where there is no peace offering status for its mother,** as the mother was consecrated as a Paschal offering, **and** yet **Rabbi Elazar says** that the offspring **is sacrificed** as **a peace offering.** Rava **said to** Abaye in response: **Do you say** that this statement of **Rabbi Elazar** with regard to a Paschal offering **after Passover** contradicts my explanation? Not so; the status of a Paschal offering **after Passover is different, as a leftover Paschal offering itself is sacrificed as a peace offering.** Therefore, a female animal designated as a Paschal offering has the status of a peace offering after Passover.


###### Temurah 19a:5
[Temurah 19a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:5)

אִי הָכִי, נִיפְלוֹג נָמֵי בְּרֵישָׁא! אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אִין הָכִי נָמֵי, וּפְלִיגִי.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Abaye asked Rava: **If so,** that the reason Rabbi Elazar permits the offspring to be sacrificed is that the mother also has the status of a peace offering, **let** Rabbi Elazar **also disagree** with the Rabbis **in the first clause** of the *baraita*, where the female animal designated as a Paschal offering gave birth before Passover. Rabbi Elazar should state that this offspring itself may be brought as a peace offering, as here too the mother has the status of a peace offering, since a Paschal offering slaughtered before Passover as a peace offering is valid. Rava **said to** Abaye: **Yes,** it **is indeed so, and they disagree** in this case as well.


###### Temurah 19a:6
[Temurah 19a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:6)

אַבָּיֵי אָמַר: לָא פְּלִיג מִידֵּי, דִּגְמִירִי לִמְקוֹם שֶׁהַמּוֹתָר הוֹלֵךְ — הַוָּלָד הוֹלֵךְ; לְאַחַר הַפֶּסַח, דְּמוֹתָר קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים — וָלָד נָמֵי קָרֵב שְׁלָמִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye** suggested another explanation of the opinion of Rabbi Elazar and **said:** In a case where the female animal designated as a Paschal offering gave birth before Passover, there is **nobody** who **disagrees;** rather, they all agree that the offspring may not be sacrificed. **As** it **is learned** as a tradition that **to the place that the leftover** offering **goes, the offspring goes** as well. Therefore, **after Passover, when the leftover** Paschal offering **is sacrificed** as **a peace offering, the offspring is also sacrificed as a peace offering.**


###### Temurah 19a:7
[Temurah 19a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:7)

אֲבָל לִפְנֵי הַפֶּסַח, אִימֵּיהּ לְמַאי אַקְדְּשַׁהּ? לִדְמֵי פֶסַח, וָלָד נָמֵי לִדְמֵי פֶסַח.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**But before Passover,** when the Paschal offering is not yet considered leftover, the offspring is endowed with the same sanctity as the mother. In **what** way **is the mother consecrated?** It is consecrated **for the value of a Paschal offering,** that is, so that it should be sold and a Paschal offering should be purchased with the proceeds, as the female animal itself may not be sacrificed as a Paschal offering. If so, **the offspring as well** is consecrated only **for the value of a Paschal offering.**


###### Temurah 19a:8
[Temurah 19a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:8)

מֵתִיב רַב עוּקְבָא בַּר חָמָא: וּמִי אָמְרִינַן מִדְּאִימֵּיהּ לִדְמֵי, וָלָד נָמֵי לִדְמֵי? וְהָתַנְיָא: הַמַּפְרִישׁ נְקֵבָה לַפֶּסַח — הִיא וּוַלְדוֹתֶיהָ יִרְעוּ עַד שֶׁיִּסְתָּאֲבוּ, וְיִמָּכְרוּ, וְיָבִיא בִּדְמֵיהֶם פֶּסַח. רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: הוּא עַצְמוֹ יִקְרַב פֶּסַח.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rav Ukva bar Ḥama raises an objection** to this explanation of Abaye: **And do we say** that Rabbi Elazar maintains **that as its mother** is consecrated only **for the value of** a Paschal offering, **the offspring as well** is consecrated only **for the value of** a Paschal offering? **But isn’t it taught** in a *baraita*: **One who designates a female** animal **as a Paschal offering, it and its offspring** are left to **graze until they become unfit, and** then **they are sold, and he brings a Paschal offering with** the **money** received for **their** sale. **Rabbi Elazar says:** The offspring **itself is sacrificed** as **a Paschal offering.**


###### Temurah 19a:9
[Temurah 19a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:9)

וְהָא הָכָא, דְּאִימֵּיהּ לִדְמֵי, וְאָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: הוּא עַצְמוֹ קָרֵב פֶּסַח, וְלָא מוֹקְמִינַן לֵיהּ בְּאִימֵּיהּ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**But here** it is a case **where its mother** was consecrated **for the value of** a Paschal offering, **and** nevertheless **Rabbi Elazar said** that the offspring **itself is sacrificed as a Paschal offering, and we do not establish** the status of the offspring based upon the sanctity **of the mother.**


###### Temurah 19a:10
[Temurah 19a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:10)

אָמַר רָבִינָא: בְּמַפְרִישׁ בְּהֵמָה מְעוּבֶּרֶת עָסְקִינַן, רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר סָבַר כְּרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן, דְּאָמַר: אִם שִׁיְּירוֹ מְשׁוּיָּיר, דְּעוּבָּר לָאו יֶרֶךְ אִמּוֹ הוּא, וְאִמּוֹ הִיא דְּלָא קָדְשָׁה קְדוּשַּׁת הַגּוּף, אֲבָל הִיא קָדְשָׁה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Ravina says:** One can answer that here **we are dealing with** a case of one **who designates a pregnant animal,** and **Rabbi Elazar holds in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi Yoḥanan, who said** with regard to one who consecrates a pregnant animal for a specific purpose, that **if he left it out,** i.e., designated the fetus as having a different sanctity, it is **left out** from the sanctity of the mother and consecrated in accordance with the designated sanctity. The reason is **that a fetus is not** considered **the thigh of its mother,** but rather the mother and its offspring are considered two separate animals. Here too, it is only **its mother that is not sanctified with the inherent sanctity** of a Paschal offering, but only for the value of a Paschal offering, as it is female. **But** the offspring **is consecrated** as a Paschal offering.


###### Temurah 19a:11
[Temurah 19a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Temurah/r/19a:11)

אֲמַר לֵיהּ מָר זוּטְרָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב מָרִי לְרָבִינָא: הָכִי נָמֵי מִסְתַּבְּרָא דְּבִבְהֵמָה מְעוּבֶּרֶת עָסְקִינַן, מִדְּקָתָנֵי ״הִיא וּוַלְדוֹתֶיהָ״, שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Mar Zutra, son of Rav Mari, said to Ravina: This, too, stands to reason, that we are dealing with** a case where he designated **a pregnant animal, from** the fact **that** the *baraita* **teaches: It and its offspring.** This indicates that both the mother and its offspring were in existence at the time of the consecration. The Gemara comments: **Conclude from here** that this explanation is correct.