## Tractate Gerim Chapter 2

###### Tractate Gerim 2:1
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גר נימול לעולם לח׳ הא כיצד עד שלא טבלה אמו נולד בן נימול בן יומו משטבלה אמו נולד נמול לח׳:

**The Minor Tractates of the Talmud, trans. A. Cohen, London: Soncino Press, 1965:**
There is a proselyte who is circumcised at eight days old¹. How is this? If he was born before his mother [who became a convert] underwent immersion he is circumcised at a day old,² but if after his mother underwent immersion at eight days old.³

footnotes:
¹ So MS.K. and H. V wrongly, ‘a proselyte is always circumcised at eight days old’.
² i.e. he is made a proselyte at the earliest moment.
³ Like a child of a Jewish mother.


###### Tractate Gerim 2:2
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גר שנתגייר מהול או ספק שנולד מהול צריך להטיף ממנו דם ברית כדברי ב"ש ובה"א א"צ:

**The Minor Tractates of the Talmud, trans. A. Cohen, London: Soncino Press, 1965:**
If a proselyte was already circumcised, or if a child was born circumcised, it is necessary to draw from him blood of the covenant,⁴ according to Beth Shammai; but Beth Hillel say that it is not necessary.

footnotes:
⁴ A slight incision is made to draw a drop of blood.


###### Tractate Gerim 2:3
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א"ר מתיא בן חרש משום ר"ש לא נחלקו ב"ש וב"ה על גר שנתגייר מהול ועל תינוק שנולד מהול על מה נחלקו על תינוק שנולד מהול ביום השבת שבש"א דוחין עליו את השבת להטיף ממנו דם ברית ובה"א א"צ:

**The Minor Tractates of the Talmud, trans. A. Cohen, London: Soncino Press, 1965:**
R. Mathia b. Ḥeresh said in the name of R. Ishmael:⁵ Beth Shammai and Beth Hillel did not differ on the question of a proselyte who was already circumcised or a child who was born circumcised. On what did they differ? On a child who was born circumcised on the Sabbath. Beth Shammai said: We override the Sabbath on his account to draw from him blood of the covenant, and Beth Hillel said that this is not necessary.⁶

footnotes:
⁵ So MS.K. and H. V has ‘Samuel’.
⁶ To set the Sabbath aside, and the blood should be drawn on another day. Both Schools agreed that it was necessary to draw the blood of the covenant.


###### Tractate Gerim 2:4
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עבד שטבל לפני רבו הרי הוא בן חורין מעשה בברוריא המלכה שטבלו מקצת עבדיה לפניה ומקצת עבדיה לאחריה. ובא מעשה לפני חכמים ואמרו אלו שטבלו לפניה בני חורין ולאחריה משועבדין:

**The Minor Tractates of the Talmud, trans. A. Cohen, London: Soncino Press, 1965:**
If a slave underwent immersion before his master⁷ he becomes free. It is related of Queen Valeria⁸ that some of her slaves underwent immersion before her and some after her, and when the case came before the Sages they said that they who underwent immersion before her were free, but they who underwent immersion after her were still enslaved.

footnotes:
⁷ A Gentile who was being made a convert.
⁸ [In Yeb. 46a (Sonc. ed., p. 299) ‘Queen’ is omitted. R.H. 17b (Sonc. ed., p. 70) mentions ‘Valeria the proselyte’.] Some of her slaves became Jewesses while she was still a heathen.


###### Tractate Gerim 2:5
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כשם שישראל נכנסין לברית בג׳ מצות כך גרים נכנסין למילה ולטבילה ולקרבן ב׳ מעכבין וא׳ אינו מעכב רא"א גר שנתגייר צריך שיפריש רביעית לקנו רש"א א"צ:

**The Minor Tractates of the Talmud, trans. A. Cohen, London: Soncino Press, 1965:**
Just as Israel were initiated into the covenant by three precepts, so proselytes are initiated by circumcision, immersion and a sacrifice. [The omission of] the first two debars him [from becoming a proselyte], but [the omission of] the third does not debar him. R. Eliezer [b. Jacob] said: The omission of the sacrifice is also a bar.⁹ This was the ruling of R. Eliezer b. Jacob: A proselyte who becomes a convert is required to set aside a fourth part [of a *dinar*] for his sacrifice of birds;¹⁰ (Sonc. ed., p. 67, n. 12). but R. Simeon says that he is not required to do so.

footnotes:
⁹ Omitted by V but added by MS.K. and H. Cf. Kerith. 9a (Sonc. ed., p. 66).
¹⁰ To be offered when the Temple will be rebuilt; Kerith. loc. cit.


###### Tractate Gerim 2:6
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נפרעין מן הגרים כדברי ר׳ יוסי ר׳ יהודה אומר אין נפרעין ממנו אלא הרי הוא כבן יומו:

**The Minor Tractates of the Talmud, trans. A. Cohen, London: Soncino Press, 1965:**
Proselytes are punished [for their sins before conversion] in the opinion of R. Jose; R. Judah said: He is not punished [61*a*] but is like a new-born child.


###### Tractate Gerim 2:7
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א"ר חנינא בר גמליאל מפני מה גרים מעונין מפני שהם מחשיבין קודם לשנה וקודם לשתים שאגבה את חובי ואעשה את צרכי אלו ממון הן כדבריך אלא שהם קוברים בנים ובני בנים וחלאים רעים ויסורין באין עליהם מפני מה מעונים מפני ז׳ מצות שנצטוו עליהם בני נח:

**The Minor Tractates of the Talmud, trans. A. Cohen, London: Soncino Press, 1965:**
R. Ḥanina b. Gamaliel said: Why are proselytes afflicted?¹¹ Because they calculate a year before or two years before [their conversion], saying, [‘I shall become a proselyte] when I have collected my debts and when I have finished what I have to do’. R. Jose said to him,¹² ‘If they were to lose money [only as a punishment] you would be right; but they [sometimes] bury their children and grandchildren and sore diseases and chastisements befall them. Why are they afflicted? Because of their [transgression¹³ of] the seven commandments which were given to the descendants of Noah’.¹⁴

footnotes:
¹¹ By God.
¹² ‘R. Jose … him’ added by MS.K. and H.
¹³ While they were still Gentiles.
¹⁴ [The practice of equity, and prohibitions against blasphemy, idolatry, immorality, bloodshed, robbery and eating a limb torn from a live animal; Sanh. 56a (Sonc. ed., pp. 381f.).]