## Yevamot Daf 120a

###### Yevamot 120a:1
[Yevamot 120a:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:1)

לְאַנְסוֹבֵי לְצָרָה מִקַּמֵּי דִּידַהּ: אִי אָמְרַתְּ צָרָה מְעִידָה לַחֲבֶרְתָּהּ, אַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא אִינְּסִיב — מַנְסְבִינַן לַהּ לְצָרָה. אִי אָמְרַתְּ מִשּׁוּם דְּהִיא לָא מְקַלְקְלָא נַפְשַׁהּ, אִינְּסִיב — מַנְסְבִינַן לַהּ לְצָרָה, אִי לָא אִינְּסִיב — לָא מַנְסְבִינַן לַהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds that Rabbi Elazar’s reasoning could make a practical difference with regard **to** allowing **the rival wife to marry before** the woman **herself,** i.e., the woman who testified that her husband died, remarries. **If you say that** according to Rabbi Elazar, **one rival wife may testify for another,** then **although** the woman who testified that her husband died **has not married, we** allow her **rival wife to marry.** Since the woman’s report is deemed credible with regard to herself, it is also deemed credible with regard to her rival wife. However, **if you say** that Rabbi Elazar’s reasoning is **due to** the presumption that **she would not cause herself injury,** then **if she has** actually **married we may** allow **her rival wife to marry,** but **if she has not married, we may not** allow **her** rival wife **to marry,** in case she lied in order to cause harm to her rival wife.


###### Yevamot 120a:2
[Yevamot 120a:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:2)

מַאי? תָּא שְׁמַע, רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: הוֹאִיל וְהוּתְּרוּ לַיְּבָמִין — הוּתְּרוּ לְכׇל אָדָם. אִי אָמְרַתְּ בִּשְׁלָמָא דְּהִיא לָא מְקַלְקְלָא נַפְשַׁהּ — הַיְינוּ דְּכִי אִינְּסִיב, מַנְסְבִינַן לַהּ,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**What** is the basis of Rabbi Elazar’s ruling? The Gemara suggests: **Come** and **hear** a resolution based upon the wording of the *baraita* itself: **Rabbi Elazar says: Since they were permitted to** marry **the brothers-in-law, they are** now **permitted to** marry **any man. Granted, if you say that** his reason is because **she would not cause herself injury, this is** the reason **that if she has** actually **married,** as in this case, where each woman entered into levirate marriage, **we may** allow **her** rival wife **to marry.**


###### Yevamot 120a:3
[Yevamot 120a:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:3)

אֶלָּא אִי אָמְרַתְּ מִשּׁוּם דְּצָרָה מְעִידָה לַחֲבֶרְתָּהּ — אַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא אִינְּסִיב נָמֵי! אֶלָּא שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ טַעְמָא דְּרַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר מִשּׁוּם דְּאִינְּסִיב הוּא, וְלָא מְקַלְקְלָא נַפְשַׁהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**But if you say** the reason is **because one rival wife may testify for another,** then **although she** herself **has not married,** it should **still** be permitted for her rival wife to marry, and it would be unnecessary for Rabbi Elazar to state his opinion in a case where the women had already entered into levirate marriage. **Rather, conclude from this that Rabbi Elazar’s reason is because she has** already **married, and she would not cause herself injury** by marrying if her original husband had not died.


###### Yevamot 120a:4
[Yevamot 120a:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:4)

רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר לְדִבְרֵיהֶם קָאָמַר לְהוּ: לְדִידִי, צָרָה מְעִידָה לַחֲבֶרְתָּהּ, וְאַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא אִינְּסִיב — מַנְסְבִינַן לַהּ. אֶלָּא לְדִידְכוּ, אוֹדוֹ לִי מִיהַת דְּהֵיכָא דְּאִינְּסִיב — מַנְסְבִינַן לַהּ, מִשּׁוּם דְּהִיא לָא מְקַלְקְלָא נַפְשַׁהּ. וְרַבָּנַן, ״תָּמוֹת נַפְשִׁי עִם פְּלִשְׁתִּים״ הוּא דְּקָעָבְדָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara rejects that and suggests that **Rabbi Elazar stated** his opinion **to** the Rabbis **in accordance with their** own **statement,** as follows: **According to my own** opinion, **one rival wife may testify for another, and although she,** herself, **has not married,** nevertheless **we may** allow **her** rival wife **to marry. But** even **according to your own** opinion, **admit, in any event, that where she has** actually **married we may** allow **her** rival wife **to marry because she would not cause injury to herself. But the Rabbis,** rejecting this, say that **she acts upon** the premise: **“Let me die with the Philistines”** (Judges 16:30), i.e., a woman may even harm herself by remarrying while her original husband is still alive, in order to harm her rival wife by causing her to remarry as well.


###### Yevamot 120a:5
[Yevamot 120a:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:5)

תָּא שְׁמַע: הָאִשָּׁה שֶׁהָלְכָה הִיא וּבַעְלָהּ לִמְדִינַת הַיָּם, וּבָאָה וְאָמְרָה: ״מֵת בַּעְלִי״ — תִּנָּשֵׂא וְתִטּוֹל כְּתוּבָּתָהּ, וְצָרָתָהּ אֲסוּרָה. רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר אוֹמֵר: הוֹאִיל וְהוּתְּרָה הִיא — הוּתְּרָה נָמֵי צָרָתָהּ. אֵימָא: הוֹאִיל וְהוּתְּרָה וְנִשֵּׂאת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara suggests another solution. **Come** and **hear** the following *baraita*: In the case of **a woman who went with her husband to a country overseas, and who** later **came and said: My husband died, she is** permitted **to marry and collect** the widow’s compensation from **her marriage contract, but her rival wife is prohibited** from doing so. **Rabbi Elazar says: Since she is permitted** to marry, **her rival wife is also permitted.** This indicates that Rabbi Elazar holds that the rival wife is permitted to marry because the wife who testified that her husband has died is permitted to do so, even if the latter has not actually remarried yet. The Gemara rejects this proof: **Say** that Rabbi Elazar means: **Since she was permitted and has married.**


###### Yevamot 120a:6
[Yevamot 120a:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:6)

וְלֵיחוּשׁ דִּלְמָא בְּגִיטָּא אֲתַאי, וְהַאי דְּקָאָמְרָה הָכִי — לְקַלְקוֹלַהּ לְצָרָה הִיא מִיכַּוְּונָה!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: If Rabbi Elazar’s reason is that she would not cause herself injury, how can her rival wife be permitted to marry? **Let us be concerned** that **perhaps she,** i.e., the woman who claimed that the husband was dead, **came with a bill of divorce** and is therefore permitted to remarry though the husband is alive. **And** the fact **that she says this,** i.e., that her husband is dead, **is intended** only **to injure her rival wife,** who will remarry, thinking that the husband is dead, and will suffer the severe consequences of adultery.


###### Yevamot 120a:7
[Yevamot 120a:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:7)

אִי דְּאִינְּסִיב לְיִשְׂרָאֵל — הָכִי נָמֵי. הָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן, דְּאִינְּסִיב לְכֹהֵן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara then validates this concern. **If she** actually **married an Israelite,** which is permitted for a divorced woman, then **indeed** one must consider the possibility that she is actually divorced and not widowed, and the rival wife is not permitted to marry. However, **here we are dealing with** a case where **she married a priest,** who is prohibited from marrying a divorced woman, and therefore she must actually be a widow, as she would not damage herself by entering into a forbidden marriage.


###### Yevamot 120a:8
[Yevamot 120a:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:8)

**מַתְנִי׳** אֵין מְעִידִין אֶלָּא עַל פַּרְצוּף פָּנִים עִם הַחוֹטֶם. אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁיֵּשׁ סִימָנִין בְּגוּפוֹ וּבְכֵלָיו — אֵין מְעִידִין אֶלָּא עַד שֶׁתֵּצֵא נַפְשׁוֹ. וַאֲפִילּוּ רָאוּהוּ מְגוּיָּיד וְצָלוּב וְהַחַיָּה אוֹכֶלֶת בּוֹ — אֵין מְעִידִין אֶלָּא עַד שְׁלֹשָׁה יָמִים.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**MISHNA:** **One may testify** that a man died **only** if he can testify **about** seeing **the countenance [*partzuf* ] of** the **face with the nose,** as this allows one to identify the individual with certainty. **Although there are distinguishing marks [*simanim*] on his body and his personal belongings,** which appear to indicate his identity, one may not rely on these as identification. Furthermore, **one may not testify** that a person died **until his soul** actually **departs. And even if one saw him cut open** and severely wounded, **or crucified, or** with a wild **animal eating** parts **of him,** he may not testify that he died. Additionally, **one may testify** to someone’s death **only** when the body was witnessed **up to three days** following death and not after that, since the appearance may change due to decomposition.


###### Yevamot 120a:9
[Yevamot 120a:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:9)

רַבִּי יְהוּדָה בֶּן בָּבָא אוֹמֵר: לֹא כׇּל הָאָדָם וְלֹא כׇּל הַמָּקוֹם וְלֹא כׇּל הַשָּׁעוֹת שָׁוִין.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Yehuda ben Bava says:** One cannot establish general guidelines for this matter because **not every person, nor every place, nor every hour is identical.** Decomposition is not uniform. It occurs at different rates in different situations.


###### Yevamot 120a:10
[Yevamot 120a:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:10)

**גְּמָ׳** תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: פַּדַּחַת וְלֹא פַּרְצוּף פָּנִים, פַּרְצוּף פָּנִים וְלֹא פַּדַּחַת — אֵין מְעִידִין, עַד שֶׁיְּהוּ שְׁנֵיהֶם עִם הַחוֹטֶם. אָמַר אַבָּיֵי, וְאִיתֵּימָא רַב כָּהֲנָא: מַאי קְרָא — ״הַכָּרַת פְּנֵיהֶם עָנְתָה בָּם״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**GEMARA:** **The Sages taught** in a *baraita*: If the witnesses saw his **forehead but not the countenance of the face,** or if they saw **the countenance of the face but not** his **forehead, they may not testify** that it is he, **until** they see **both of them with the nose. Abaye said, and some say** it was **Rav Kahana** who said: **What is the verse** from which it is derived that one may testify that a man died only if one sees his face? The verse is: **“The show of their face does witness against them”** (Isaiah 3:9), which indicates that one clearly recognizes another only upon seeing his face.


###### Yevamot 120a:11
[Yevamot 120a:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:11)

אַבָּא בַּר מָרְתָא דְּהוּא אַבָּא בַּר מִנְיוֹמֵי הֲוָה מַסְּקִי בֵּיהּ דְּבֵי רֵישָׁא גָּלוּתָא זוּזֵי. אַיְיתִי קִירָא, דַּבֵּק בִּבְלִייתָא, דַּבֵּק בְּאַפּוּתֵיהּ. חֲלַף קַמַּיְיהוּ וְלָא בַּשְׁקְרוּהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara relates that **Abba bar Marta, who is** also known as **Abba bar Minyumi, had been loaned money by** members of **the Exilarch’s house.** Since he did not want to be seen by these violent people, **he brought wax [*kira*], stuck** it **to** a strip of **worn-out fabric,** and **stuck** all of that **to his forehead** in order to alter his appearance. **He passed before them and they did not recognize him [*beshakru*].** This shows how much a person’s face changes when the appearance of his forehead is altered.


###### Yevamot 120a:12
[Yevamot 120a:12](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:12)

אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁיֵּשׁ סִימָנִין וְכוּ׳. לְמֵימְרָא דְּסִימָנִין לָאו דְּאוֹרָיְיתָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ We learned in the mishna that, **although there are distinguishing marks** on a dead person’s body and clothing, one may not rely on these as identification. The Gemara asks: **Is this to say that distinguishing marks are not** recognized as valid identification **by Torah law,** and while a rabbinic ordinance allows one to rely upon them to remedy certain situations, for testimony about a person’s death, the Sages require the stringencies of Torah law?


###### Yevamot 120a:13
[Yevamot 120a:13](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:13)

וּרְמִינְהִי: מְצָאוֹ קָשׁוּר בְּכִיס וּבְאַרְנָקִי וּבְטַבַּעַת, אוֹ שֶׁנִּמְצָא בֵּין כֵּלָיו, אֲפִילּוּ לִזְמַן מְרוּבֶּה — כָּשֵׁר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**But** the Gemara **raises a contradiction,** based upon the following *baraita*: If an agent charged with delivering a bill of divorce to a woman lost it, and then **he found it tied to a purse, or a money bag [*arnekei*], or a ring, or if it was found among his personal belongings, even after a long time, it is valid,** i.e., one may rely upon the distinguishing marks on these objects to positively identify the document, and the agent may then deliver it to the woman. This indicates that distinguishing marks are sufficient to identify an object even by Torah law.


###### Yevamot 120a:14
[Yevamot 120a:14](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:14)

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי, לָא קַשְׁיָא: הָא רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר בֶּן מַהֲבַאי, הָא רַבָּנַן. דְּתַנְיָא: אֵין מְעִידִין עַל הַשּׁוּמָא. רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר בֶּן מַהֲבַאי אוֹמֵר: מְעִידִין. מַאי לָאו בְּהָא קָמִיפַּלְגִי, דְּמָר סָבַר סִימָנִין דְּאוֹרָיְיתָא, וּמָר סָבַר סִימָנִין דְּרַבָּנַן?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Abaye said:** This is **not difficult. That** *baraita* **is** in accordance with the opinion of **Rabbi Eliezer ben Mahavai,** while **this** mishna **is** in accordance with the opinion of **the Rabbis; as it is taught** in a *baraita*: **One may not testify** about a person’s identity **based upon** the position of **a mole** on his body. **Rabbi Eliezer ben Mahavai says: One may testify** based on a mole. **What, is it not about this** issue **that they disagree:** One **Sage,** Rabbi Eliezer ben Mahavai, **holds that distinguishing marks are** recognized as valid identification **by Torah** law, **and** one **Sage,** the anonymous first *tanna*, representing the majority of the Rabbis, **holds that distinguishing marks are** recognized as a means of identification only **by rabbinic** law and are therefore insufficient to permit a Torah prohibition?


###### Yevamot 120a:15
[Yevamot 120a:15](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:15)

אָמַר רָבָא: דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא סִימָנִין דְּאוֹרָיְיתָא. הָכָא, בְּשׁוּמָא מְצוּיָה בְּבֶן גִּילוֹ קָמִיפַּלְגִי. מָר סָבַר: שׁוּמָא מְצוּיָה בְּבֶן גִּילוֹ, וּמָר סָבַר: אֵינָהּ מְצוּיָה בְּבֶן גִּילוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rava said:** It is possible **that everyone** agrees that **distinguishing marks are** recognized as valid identification **by Torah** law, and **here they are disagreeing about** whether such **a mole is commonly found on his peer,** i.e., anyone very similar to him, which would undermine its usefulness as a means of identification. One **Sage,** the anonymous first *tanna*, **holds** that such **a mole is commonly found on his peer** and therefore is not sufficient for identification. **And** one **Sage,** Rabbi Eliezer ben Mahavai, **holds** that **it is not commonly found on his peer** and is therefore an unambiguous distinguishing mark sufficient for identification.


###### Yevamot 120a:16
[Yevamot 120a:16](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:16)

וְאִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי: הָכָא בְּשׁוּמָא הָעֲשׂוּיָה לְהִשְׁתַּנּוֹת לְאַחַר מִיתָה קָמִיפַּלְגִי. מָר סָבַר: עֲשׂוּיָה לְהִשְׁתַּנּוֹת לְאַחַר מִיתָה. וּמָר סָבַר: אֵינָהּ עֲשׂוּיָה לְהִשְׁתַּנּוֹת לְאַחַר מִיתָה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And there are** those **who say** otherwise: **Here they are disagreeing about** whether **a mole is likely to change** in appearance and size **after death.** One **Sage,** the anonymous first *tanna*, **holds that it is likely to change after death.** It is insufficient for identification because it may have looked different when the person was alive. **And** one **Sage,** Rabbi Eliezer ben Mahavai, **holds that it is not likely to change after death** and is reliable for identification. This marks the end of one version of the discussion about this issue.


###### Yevamot 120a:17
[Yevamot 120a:17](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yevamot/r/120a:17)

וְאִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי, אָמַר רָבָא: דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא סִימָנִין דְּרַבָּנַן. וְהָכָא, בְּשׁוּמָא

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And there are** those **who say** that **Rava said: Everyone** agrees that **distinguishing marks** are relied upon **by rabbinic** law. However, this is referring to ordinary distinguishing marks. Marks that are exceptionally unusual may be relied upon even according to Torah law. **And here,** in the dispute between the Rabbis and Rabbi Eliezer ben Mahavai, it is **about** whether **a mole**