## Yoma Daf 45b

###### Yoma 45b:1
[Yoma 45b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/45b:1)

שֶׁסּוֹדְרָן עַל גַּבֵּי מִזְבֵּחַ, וְאִם אֵין מַחֲזִיקָן, שֶׁסּוֹדְרָן עַל הַכֶּבֶשׁ אוֹ עַל גַּבֵּי סוֹבֵב, עַד שֶׁיַּעֲשֶׂה מַעֲרָכָה גְּדוֹלָה, וְסוֹדְרָן? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר: ״אֲשֶׁר תֹּאכַל הָאֵשׁ אֶת הָעוֹלָה עַל הַמִּזְבֵּחַ״.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**that they are arranged upon the altar, and if** the space on the altar **cannot hold them, that they are arranged upon the ramp or upon the ledge** that protrudes from the altar, **until the large arrangement is made** the following day **and** then **they are arranged** upon it? **The verse states: “That which the fire will consume of the burnt-offering, on the altar”** (Leviticus 6:3). This is taken to mean that those items that the fire already consumed are once again placed upon the altar.


###### Yoma 45b:2
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וְרַבִּי מֵאִיר: עִיכּוּלֵי עוֹלָה אַתָּה מַחֲזִיר, וְאִי אַתָּה מַחֲזִיר עִיכּוּלֵי קְטוֹרֶת. דְּתָנֵי רַבִּי חֲנַנְיָא בַּר מִנְיוֹמֵי בִּדְבֵי רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר בֶּן יַעֲקֹב: ״אֲשֶׁר תֹּאכַל הָאֵשׁ אֶת הָעוֹלָה עַל הַמִּזְבֵּחַ״ — עִיכּוּלֵי עוֹלָה אַתָּה מַחֲזִיר, וְאִי אַתָּה מַחֲזִיר עִיכּוּלֵי קְטוֹרֶת.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And** how does **Rabbi Meir** expound this verse? He derives from it that if **parts of a burnt-offering** that were already partially **consumed** on the altar fell off the altar, **you should return them** to continue burning; **but you do not return incense** that was **consumed** and fell off of the inner incense altar. **As Rabbi Ḥananya bar Minyomi from the school of Rabbi Eliezer ben Ya’akov taught** in a *baraita*: The verse states: **“That which the fire will consume of the burnt-offering on the altar”** (Leviticus 6:3). This teaches that if **parts of a burnt-offering** that were partially **consumed** fell off the altar, **you should return them; but you do not return incense** that was partially **consumed** and fell off the altar.


###### Yoma 45b:3
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דְּכוּלֵּי עָלְמָא מִיהַת מוֹסִיפִין בּוֹ בַּיּוֹם אִית לְהוּ. מָנָא לְהוּ? נָפְקָא לְהוּ: מִ״וְּהָאֵשׁ״. וַאֲפִילּוּ לְמַאן דְּלָא דָּרֵישׁ וָאו, וָאו הֵא דָּרֵישׁ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**At any rate, everyone** assumes there is an additional arrangement of wood **that they add on that day,** i.e., Yom Kippur, for the incense that is burned in the Holy of Holies. **From where** do **they** derive this? **They derive it** from the verse **“And the fire** upon the altar” (Leviticus 6:5). The apparently superfluous words “and the” allude to an additional fire. **And even one who does not** generally **expound** the word **“and” does expound** the phrase **“and the.”**


###### Yoma 45b:4
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״אֵשׁ תָּמִיד״ לְמַאי אֲתָא? מִבְּעֵי לֵיהּ לְכִדְתַנְיָא: ״אֵשׁ תָּמִיד תּוּקַד עַל הַמִּזְבֵּחַ לֹא תִכְבֶּה״ — לִימֵּד עַל מַעֲרָכָה שְׁנִיָּה שֶׁל קְטוֹרֶת שֶׁלֹּא תְּהֵא אֶלָּא עַל הַמִּזְבֵּחַ הַחִיצוֹן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara notes that there is an additional mention of the altar fire, which has not yet been explained: The phrase **“a perpetual fire”**(Leviticus 6:6), **for what** *halakha* does it **come** to teach? **It is required for** the *halakha* **that was taught** in the following *baraita*: The verse states: **“A perpetual fire shall be kept burning on the altar, it shall not go out”** (Leviticus 6:6). This **teaches about the second arrangement** of wood to produce coals **for** the **incense, that it is** set up **only on the outer altar.**


###### Yoma 45b:5
[Yoma 45b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/45b:5)

אֵשׁ מַחְתָּה וּמְנוֹרָה מִנַּיִין? וְדִין הוּא: נֶאֶמְרָה אֵשׁ בִּקְטוֹרֶת, וְנֶאֶמְרָה אֵשׁ בְּמַחְתָּה וּמְנוֹרָה — מָה לְהַלָּן עַל מִזְבֵּחַ הַחִיצוֹן, אַף כָּאן עַל הַמִּזְבֵּחַ הַחִיצוֹן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**From where** is it derived that coals of **fire** that are taken with **a coal pan** for the incense on Yom Kippur **and** for the fire **for** lighting **the candelabrum** must also be from the outer altar? **It is a logical derivation. “Fire” is stated with regard to the** daily **incense** offering, **and “fire” is stated with regard to the** incense **coal pan and the candelabrum. Just as there,** in the case of the daily incense offering, the fire is taken from **upon the outer altar, so too** here, in the case of the incense coal pan and the candelabrum, the fire should be taken from **upon the outer altar.**


###### Yoma 45b:6
[Yoma 45b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/45b:6)

אוֹ כְּלָךְ לְדֶרֶךְ זוֹ: נֶאֶמְרָה אֵשׁ בִּקְטוֹרֶת, וְנֶאֶמְרָה אֵשׁ בְּמַחְתָּה וּמְנוֹרָה — מָה לְהַלָּן בְּסָמוּךְ לוֹ, אַף מַחְתָּה וּמְנוֹרָה בְּסָמוּךְ לוֹ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If the matter is derived through reasoning, it is also possible to posit an alternative argument: **Or,** alternatively, one could **go this way. “Fire” is stated with regard to the** daily **incense** offering, **and “fire” is stated with regard to the** incense **coal pan and the candelabrum. Just as there,** in the case of the daily incense offering, the fire is taken from a place **near to it,** i.e., the outer altar, **so too,** in the case of the incense **coal pan and the candelabrum,** the fire should be taken from a place **near to it,** i.e., the inner altar.


###### Yoma 45b:7
[Yoma 45b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/45b:7)

תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר: ״אֵשׁ תָּמִיד תּוּקַד עַל הַמִּזְבֵּחַ לֹא תִכְבֶּה״ — אֵשׁ תָּמִיד שֶׁאָמַרְתִּי לָךְ, לֹא תְּהֵא אֶלָּא בְּרֹאשׁוֹ שֶׁל מִזְבֵּחַ הַחִיצוֹן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Since there are two equally logical derivations, a verse is required to teach the *halakha*. **The verse states: “A perpetual fire shall be kept burning on the altar, it shall not go out”** (Leviticus 6:6). The **“perpetual fire” that I told you,** i.e., the fire of the candelabrum, about which the Torah states “a lamp to burn continually” (Exodus 27:20), **should** be lit **only** from a fire that is **upon the top of the outer altar.**


###### Yoma 45b:8
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לָמַדְנוּ אֵשׁ לַמְּנוֹרָה, אֵשׁ לַמַּחְתָּה מִנַּיִין? וְדִין הוּא: נֶאֶמְרָה אֵשׁ בְּמַחְתָּה, וְנֶאֶמְרָה אֵשׁ בִּמְנוֹרָה — מָה לְהַלָּן עַל גַּבֵּי מִזְבֵּחַ הַחִיצוֹן, אַף כָּאן עַל מִזְבֵּחַ הַחִיצוֹן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**We** have therefore **learned** the source for the **fire for** the **candelabrum. From where** do we derive the same *halakha* for the **fire for the** incense **coal pan** on Yom Kippur? **It is a logical derivation. “Fire” is stated with regard to** the incense **coal pan** on Yom Kippur, **and “fire” is stated with regard to** the **candelabrum. Just as there,** in the case of the candelabrum, the fire is taken from **upon the outer altar, so too, here,** in the case of the incense coal pan, the fire should be taken from **upon the outer altar.**


###### Yoma 45b:9
[Yoma 45b:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/45b:9)

אוֹ כְּלָךְ לְדֶרֶךְ זוֹ: נֶאֶמְרָה אֵשׁ בִּקְטוֹרֶת, וְנֶאֶמְרָה אֵשׁ בְּמַחְתָּה — מָה לְהַלָּן בְּסָמוּךְ לוֹ, אַף כָּאן בְּסָמוּךְ לוֹ!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
If the matter is derived through reasoning, it is also possible to posit an alternative argument: **Or,** alternatively, one could **go this way: “Fire” is stated with regard to the** daily **incense** offering, **and “fire” is stated with regard to the** incense **coal pan** on Yom Kippur. **Just as there,** in the case of the daily incense offering, the fire is taken from a place **near to it,** i.e., the outer altar, **so too, here,** in the case of fire for the incense coal pan, the fire should be taken from a place **near to it,** i.e., the inner altar.


###### Yoma 45b:10
[Yoma 45b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/45b:10)

תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר: ״וְלָקַח מְלֹא הַמַּחְתָּה גַּחֲלֵי אֵשׁ מֵעַל הַמִּזְבֵּחַ מִלִּפְנֵי ה׳״, אֵיזֶהוּ מִזְבֵּחַ שֶׁמִּקְצָתוֹ לִפְנֵי ה׳ וְאֵין כּוּלּוֹ לִפְנֵי ה׳ — הֱוֵי אוֹמֵר זֶה מִזְבֵּחַ הַחִיצוֹן.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Since there are two equally logical derivations, a verse is required to teach the *halakha*: **The verse states: “And he shall take a pan full of coals of fire from upon the altar from before the Lord”** (Leviticus 16:12). The description of the altar being “from before the Lord” suggests it is not entirely before the Lord. **Which altar** is only **partially before the Lord, but not all of it is before the Lord,** i.e., part of it lies directly parallel to the Sanctuary, but part of it does not? **You must say** that **this is the outer altar.** Only the western side of it lies parallel to the entrance to the Sanctuary. In contrast, the inner altar is entirely within the Sanctuary and so is considered entirely before the Lord.


###### Yoma 45b:11
[Yoma 45b:11](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/45b:11)

וְאִיצְטְרִיךְ לְמִיכְתַּב: ״מֵעַל הַמִּזְבֵּחַ״, וְאִיצְטְרִיךְ לְמִיכְתַּב: ״מִלִּפְנֵי ה׳״, דְּאִי כְּתַב רַחֲמָנָא ״מֵעַל הַמִּזְבֵּחַ״, הֲוָה אָמֵינָא: מַאי ״מִזְבֵּחַ״ — מִזְבֵּחַ פְּנִימִי, כְּתַב רַחֲמָנָא: ״מִלִּפְנֵי ה׳״. וְאִי כְּתַב רַחֲמָנָא: ״מִלִּפְנֵי ה׳״, הֲוָה אָמֵינָא דַּוְקָא מִלִּפְנֵי ה׳,

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**And it is necessary to write “from upon the altar” and it is necessary to write “from before God” because if the Merciful One had written** only **“from upon the altar” I would have said: What altar** is the verse referring to? The **inner altar.** Therefore, **the Merciful One writes “from before God.” And if the Merciful One had written** only **“from before God,” I would have said** it means **specifically from** the part of the altar that lies **before God,** i.e., from the northwestern corner, which lies directly parallel to the entrance of the Sanctuary;