## Yoma Daf 65b

###### Yoma 65b:1
[Yoma 65b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/65b:1)

קׇרְבְּנוֹת צִבּוּר קָא אָמְרַתְּ? שָׁאנֵי קׇרְבְּנוֹת צִבּוּר, כִּדְרַבִּי טָבִי אָמַר רַבִּי יֹאשִׁיָּה. דְּאָמַר רַבִּי טָבִי אָמַר רַבִּי יֹאשִׁיָּה: אָמַר קְרָא: ״זֹאת עוֹלַת חֹדֶשׁ בְּחׇדְשׁוֹ״, אָמְרָה תּוֹרָה: חַדֵּשׁ וְהָבֵא לִי קׇרְבָּן מִתְּרוּמָה חֲדָשָׁה.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**You speak of communal offerings? Communal offerings are different, in accordance with** what **Rabbi Tavi said** in the name of **Rabbi Yoshiya. As Rabbi Tavi said** that **Rabbi Yoshiya said** that **the verse states: “This is the burnt-offering for every New Moon upon its renewal** throughout the months of the year” (Numbers 28:14). **The Torah said: Renew and bring Me an offering from the new contribution.** This indicates that communal offerings must be brought from the donations of the current year and not from the donations of the previous year.


###### Yoma 65b:2
[Yoma 65b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/65b:2)

תִּינַח שָׂעִיר, פַּר מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר? גְּזֵירָה פַּר אַטּוּ שָׂעִיר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges this solution: This works out **well** with regard to the Yom Kippur **goat,** which is a communal offering and is purchased with money from the Temple treasury. However, with regard to the High Priest’s **bull** which he pays for himself and which is considered an individual offering, **what is there to say?** The Gemara answers: There is **a** rabbinic **decree** with regard to the **bull due to the goat.**


###### Yoma 65b:3
[Yoma 65b:3](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/65b:3)

וּמִשּׁוּם גְּזֵירָה יָמוּתוּ? וְעוֹד: הָא דְּרַבִּי טָבִי אָמַר רַבִּי יֹאשִׁיָּה גּוּפַהּ מִצְוָה הִיא. דְּאָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: קׇרְבְּנוֹת צִבּוּר הַבָּאִין בְּאֶחָד בְּנִיסָן — מִצְוָה לְהָבִיא מִן הֶחָדָשׁ, וְאִם הֵבִיא מִן הַיָּשָׁן — יָצָא, אֶלָּא שֶׁחִסֵּר מִצְוָה!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara expresses surprise: Is it right that **due to a** rabbinic **decree** the offerings **should** be left to **die** instead of being left to graze? **And furthermore, this** statement **that Rabbi Tavi said** in the name of **Rabbi Yoshiya is itself a mitzva** *ab initio*, but is not indispensable. **As Rav Yehuda said** that **Shmuel said:** With regard to **communal offerings that are brought on the first of Nisan, it is a mitzva to bring** them **from the new** year’s shekel contributions. However, **if he brought** them **from the old** shekels that were donated during the previous year **he has fulfilled** his obligation, **but he lacked the mitzva,** i.e., he did not perform the procedure in the proper manner. It is difficult to argue that due to this inessential detail the Sages would issue a decree that the High Priest’s bull should be left to die.


###### Yoma 65b:4
[Yoma 65b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/65b:4)

אֶלָּא אָמַר רַבִּי זֵירָא: לְפִי שֶׁאֵין הַגּוֹרָל קוֹבֵעַ מִשָּׁנָה לַחֲבֶרְתָּהּ. וְנַיְיתֵי וְנַגְרֵיל? גְּזֵירָה שֶׁמָּא יֹאמְרוּ הַגּוֹרָל קוֹבֵעַ מִשָּׁנָה לַחֲבֶרְתָּהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rather, Rabbi Zeira said** that the reason the bull and goat of Yom Kippur are left to die is **because the lottery does not establish** designations **from** one **year to another.** Therefore, a goat designated by the lottery one year is not eligible for use the next year. The Gemara challenges this explanation: **But let us bring** this goat and another one **and draw lots** again. The Gemara responds: **It is a** rabbinic **decree** that was enacted **lest** people **say** that **the lottery establishes** designations **from** one **year to another.**


###### Yoma 65b:5
[Yoma 65b:5](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/65b:5)

הָא תִּינַח שָׂעִיר, פַּר מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר? גְּזֵירָה פַּר אַטּוּ שָׂעִיר. וּמִשּׁוּם גְּזֵירָה יָמוּתוּ?

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges: **This** works out **well** with regard to the **goat,** but with respect to the **bull** of the High Priest, which is not chosen by lottery, **what is there to say?** The Gemara answers: There is **a** rabbinic **decree** with regard to the **bull due to** the **goat.** The Gemara challenges further: Is it right that **due to a** rabbinic **decree** the offerings **should** be left to **die** instead of being left to graze? Therefore, this answer should be rejected.


###### Yoma 65b:6
[Yoma 65b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/65b:6)

אַמְרוּהָ רַבָּנַן קַמֵּיהּ דְּאַבָּיֵי: גְּזֵירָה מִשּׁוּם חַטָּאת שֶׁמֵּתוּ בְּעָלֶיהָ. הָא תִּינַח פַּר, שָׂעִיר מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר? גְּזֵירָה שָׂעִיר אַטּוּ פַּר.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**The Rabbis stated** another solution **before Abaye:** It is **a** rabbinic **decree, due to** a concern that the bull will become **a sin-offering whose owners have died,** since the High Priest might die during the year. The Gemara responds: **This** works out **well** with regard to the **bull,** but as for the **goat,** which is a communal offering, **what is there to say?** The Gemara answers: There is **a** rabbinic **decree** with regard to the **goat due to the bull.**


###### Yoma 65b:7
[Yoma 65b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/65b:7)

וּמִשּׁוּם גְּזֵירָה יָמוּתוּ? אֶלָּא: גְּזֵירָה מִשּׁוּם חַטָּאת שֶׁעִבְּרָה שְׁנָתָהּ. גְּזֵירָה? הִיא גּוּפַהּ חַטָּאת שֶׁעִבְּרָה שְׁנָתָהּ הִיא!

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara asks: Is it right that **due to a** rabbinic **decree** the offerings **should** be left to **die** instead of being left to graze? **Rather,** it is **a** rabbinic **decree due to** a concern that the goat will become **a sin-offering whose year has passed.** A goat may not be brought as a sin-offering once it is more than a year old, and there is a concern that the goat will be too old by the Yom Kippur of the following year. The Gemara expresses surprise: Is this **a** rabbinic **decree? It is** certainly **a sin-offering whose year has passed,** as the goat will certainly be more than a year old by the following Yom Kippur.


###### Yoma 65b:8
[Yoma 65b:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/65b:8)

הָא לָא קַשְׁיָא, כְּרַבִּי. דְּתַנְיָא: ״שָׁנָה תְּמִימָה״, מוֹנֶה שְׁלֹשׁ מֵאוֹת וְשִׁשִּׁים וַחֲמִשָּׁה יוֹם כְּמִנְיָן יְמוֹת הַחַמָּה, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: מוֹנֶה שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ מִיּוֹם לְיוֹם.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara responds: **This is not difficult,** as it is possible that the goat will not be disqualified, **in accordance with** the opinion of **Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi. **As it was taught** in a *baraita*: With regard to redeeming houses in a walled city the Torah states: “And if it not be redeemed within the space of **a full year”** (Leviticus 25:30), which indicates that **he counts 365 days, in accordance with the number** of **days** in a **solar year;** this is **the statement of Rabbi** Yehuda HaNasi. **And the Rabbis say: He counts twelve months from day to day.** Therefore, according to the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, if the goat was less than eleven days old on the first Yom Kippur, it will not be disqualified on the following Yom Kippur because it will still be less than 365 days old, as long as the first year was not a leap year. Nevertheless, it is disqualified by rabbinic decree due to a concern that other goats would be used in similar circumstances even if they were more than a year old.