## Yoma Daf 80b

###### Yoma 80b:1
[Yoma 80b:1](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/80b:1)

כִּי אִתְּשִׁיל, בְּעוֹג מֶלֶךְ הַבָּשָׁן אִתְּשִׁיל, דְּהָווּ לְהוּ בֵּית שַׁמַּאי לְחוּמְרָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**When** this question with regard to the measure of liquid **was asked,** it was not asked about an average-sized person, for whom a mouthful is smaller than a quarter-*log*. Rather, **the question was asked** even **about Og, king of Bashan,** in which case, **it is Beit Shammai** who are **stringent,** for Og’s cheekful is much more than a quarter-*log*.


###### Yoma 80b:2
[Yoma 80b:2](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/80b:2)

מַתְקֵיף לַהּ רַבִּי זֵירָא: מַאי שְׁנָא אֲכִילָה, דְּכׇל חַד וְחַד — בִּכְכוֹתֶבֶת, וּמַאי שְׁנָא שְׁתִיָּה, דְּכׇל חַד וְחַד בְּדִידֵיהּ? אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: קִים לְהוּ לְרַבָּנַן בִּכְכוֹתֶבֶת, דִּבְהָכִי מִיַּתְּבָא דַּעְתֵּיהּ, בְּצִיר מֵהָכִי — לָא מִיַּתְּבָא. בִּשְׁתִיָּה, בְּדִידֵיהּ מִיַּתְּבָא דַּעְתֵּיהּ, בִּדְחַבְרֵיהּ — לָא מִיַּתְּבָא דַּעְתֵּיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Zeira strongly objects to this** *halakha* with regard to the measure for liability for drinking: **What is different** with regard to **eating,** in **that all people** have the same measure, the **volume of a large date; and what is different** with regard to **drinking, where each and every** person is liable **according to his own measure,** i.e., every individual’s measure depends on the size of his own mouth? **Abaye said to him: The Sages have** an accepted **tradition** with regard to **the volume of the large date, that** eating **this** amount **settles his mind,** but **less than this** amount **does not settle** his mind. However, with regard to **drinking, his mind is settled with** the amount of **his own** cheekful, **but his mind is not settled** with the cheekful **of his fellow** who is smaller than him.


###### Yoma 80b:3
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מַתְקֵיף לַהּ רַבִּי זֵירָא: וְכׇל הָעוֹלָם כּוּלּוֹ בִּכְכוֹתֶבֶת וְעוֹג מֶלֶךְ הַבָּשָׁן בִּכְכוֹתֶבֶת? אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: קִים לְהוּ לְרַבָּנַן דִּבְהָכִי מִיַּתְּבָא דַּעְתֵּיהּ, בְּצִיר מֵהָכִי לָא מִיַּתְּבָא דַּעְתֵּיהּ, מִיהוּ, כּוּלֵּי עָלְמָא — טוּבָא, וְעוֹג מֶלֶךְ הַבָּשָׁן — פּוּרְתָּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Zeira strongly objects to this** for a different reason: **Is everyone** of average size satisfied **with** eating **the volume of a large date, and** even **Og, king of Bashan,** is also satisfied **with the volume of a large date?** If not, there should also be relative measures for eating. **Abaye said to him: The Sages have** an accepted **tradition that this** amount **settles his mind,** but **less than this** amount **does not settle his mind. However, everyone** of average size has his mind **greatly** settled, whereas **Og, king of Bashan,** has his mind only **a little** settled. But even so, this measure settles the mind of any person and relieves his affliction.


###### Yoma 80b:4
[Yoma 80b:4](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/80b:4)

מַתְקֵיף לַהּ רַבִּי זֵירָא בָּשָׂר שָׁמֵן בִּכְכוֹתֶבֶת, וְלוּלְבֵי גְפָנִים בִּכְכוֹתֶבֶת? אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: קִים לְהוּ לְרַבָּנַן דִּבְהָכִי מִיַּתְּבָא דַּעְתֵּיהּ, בְּצִיר מֵהָכִי — לָא מִיַּתְּבָא דַּעְתֵּיהּ. מִיהוּ בָּשָׂר שָׁמֵן — טוּבָא, לוּלְבֵי גְפָנִים — פּוּרְתָּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rabbi Zeira strongly objects to this** further: If it is on account of settling one’s mind, the following question can be raised: If one ate **fatty meat,** his mind would be settled with the **volume of a large date,** but if he ate edible **grapevine shoots,** would his mind similarly be settled **with the volume of a large date? Abaye said to him: The Sages have** an accepted **tradition that with this** measure **one’s mind is settled,** but **with less than this** measure **his mind is not settled. However,** with **fatty meat,** his mind is **greatly** settled; if one ate the same measure of **grapevine shoots,** his mind is only **a little** settled.


###### Yoma 80b:5
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מַתְקֵיף לַהּ רָבָא: כְּזַיִת בִּכְדֵי אֲכִילַת פְּרָס, וְכוֹתֶבֶת בִּכְדֵי אֲכִילַת פְּרָס?! אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: קִים לְהוּ לְרַבָּנַן דִּבְהָכִי מִיַּתְּבָא דַּעְתֵּיהּ, בִּטְפֵי מֵהָכִי — לָא מִיַּתְּבָא דַּעְתֵּיהּ.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rava strongly objects to this:** For all prohibitions of eating, the measure that determines liability is the volume **of an olive-bulk** consumed **within** the time it takes **to eat a half-loaf of bread.** All forbidden food eaten within that period combines to the measure of an olive-bulk. However, one who eats an olive-bulk over a longer period is exempt. Yet, on Yom Kippur one who eats the **volume of a large date,** which is a larger measure, is culpable if this amount is eaten **within** the time it would take **to eat a half-loaf of bread.** This appears to be a leniency, since one must eat a larger measure in the same time period of time. Why is there not a longer period of time for liability on Yom Kippur, to reflect the larger measure? **Abaye said to him: The Sages have** an accepted **tradition that** one who eats within **this** duration of time, **his mind is settled; but** one who eats within **a longer** duration of time, **his mind is not settled,** and he remains in a state of affliction.


###### Yoma 80b:6
[Yoma 80b:6](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/80b:6)

מַתְקֵיף לַהּ רָבָא: (בְּכוֹתֶבֶת) בִּכְדֵי אֲכִילַת פְּרָס, חֲצִי פְרָס — בִּכְדֵי אֲכִילַת פְּרָס?! אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב פָּפָּא: הַנַּח לְטוּמְאַת גְּוִויָּה דְּלָאו דְּאוֹרָיְיתָא הִיא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
**Rava strongly objects to this:** The measure for liability for eating on Yom Kippur is the **volume of a large date** consumed **within** the time it takes **to eat a half-loaf of bread;** but the measure for eating impure foods that render one ritually impure is **half of a half-loaf,** which is two egg-bulks, a much larger volume, and this must also be consumed **within** the time it takes **to eat a half-loaf of bread. Rav Pappa said to him:** Do not raise a challenge from here. **Leave** aside **ritual impurity of the body** contracted through consuming impure foods **because that is not by Torah law** but by rabbinic law. The Sages were lenient in this matter. If one does not consume that amount of impure food within this time period, he is not rendered impure.


###### Yoma 80b:7
[Yoma 80b:7](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/80b:7)

וּמִי אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא הָכִי? וְהָכְתִיב: ״וְלֹא תִטַּמְּאוּ בָּהֶם וְנִטְמֵתֶם בָּם״, וְאָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: מִכָּאן שֶׁטּוּמְאַת גְּוִויָּה דְּאוֹרָיְיתָא! מִדְּרַבָּנַן, וּקְרָא — אַסְמַכְתָּא בְּעָלְמָא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
The Gemara challenges this: **But did Rav Pappa** actually **say that** the rendering of ritual impurity of the body through the consumption of impure foods is by rabbinic law? **But** he appears to say the opposite in another statement: **Isn’t it written:** “You shall not make yourselves detestable with any creeping thing that creeps, **neither shall you make yourselves impure with them, that you should be impure thereby”** (Leviticus 11:43). **And Rav Pappa said: From here,** from the Torah’s usage of the word “impure” with regard to the prohibition of eating, we learn that **ritual impurity of the body is by Torah law.** The Gemara answers: Rav Pappa did not mean that the law is actually Torah law. The law is indeed **rabbinic** law, **and the verse** brought as proof **is a mere support.**


###### Yoma 80b:8
[Yoma 80b:8](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/80b:8)

כׇּל הָאוֹכָלִין. אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: אֲכַל אוּמְצָא וּמִילְחָא — מִצְטָרֵף. וְאַף עַל גַּב דְּלָאו אֲכִילָה הִיא, כֵּיוָן דְּאָכְלִי אִינָשֵׁי — מִצְטָרְפִין. אָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ: צִיר שֶׁעַל גַּבֵּי יָרָק מִצְטָרֵף לִכְכוֹתֶבֶת בְּיוֹם הַכִּפּוּרִים. פְּשִׁיטָא! מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא מַשְׁקֶה הוּא, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן: כׇּל אַכְשׁוֹרֵי אוּכְלָא — אוּכְלָא הוּא.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ We learned in the mishna: **All** types of **foods** combine to form a measure of liability with regard to eating on Yom Kippur. **Rav Pappa said:** If one **ate meat and** the **salt** that was on it, these **combine** to make the volume of a large date. **Although** consuming salt alone **is not** considered **eating, since people do eat** meat with salt together, **they combine** into one measure. Similarly, **Reish Lakish said: Brine on a vegetable combines** with the vegetable to make the **volume of a large date** with regard to the prohibition of eating **on Yom Kippur.** The Gemara expresses surprise at this: **It** is **obvious.** Why should the brine not combine with the vegetable, considering that it is itself food? The Gemara answers: **Lest you say** that brine is **a beverage,** and food and drinks do not combine, **it teaches us** that **any item that prepares food** for eating **is** considered **a food.**


###### Yoma 80b:9
[Yoma 80b:9](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/80b:9)

אָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ: הָאוֹכֵל אֲכִילָה גַּסָּה בְּיוֹם הַכִּפּוּרִים — פָּטוּר. מַאי טַעְמָא? ״אֲשֶׁר לֹא תְעוּנֶּה״ כְּתִיב, פְּרָט לְמַזִּיק.

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
§ **Reish Lakish said: One who eats** in **an excessive manner on Yom Kippur,** to the degree that he forces himself to continue eating even when full **is exempt,** e.g., one who ate beyond being satiated on Yom Kippur eve and then ate something else as soon as the fast began. **What is the reason** for that? Because the Torah does not mention the prohibition of eating on Yom Kippur, but it **was written** “any soul which **shall not be afflicted** in that same day, he shall be cut off from his people” (Leviticus 23:29), **excluding one who harms** himself, e.g., one who does not enjoy his food at all.


###### Yoma 80b:10
[Yoma 80b:10](https://torahapp.org/share/book/Yoma/r/80b:10)

אָמַר רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה אָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ: זָר שֶׁאָכַל תְּרוּמָה אֲכִילָה גַּסָּה — מְשַׁלֵּם אֶת הַקֶּרֶן וְאֵינוֹ מְשַׁלֵּם אֶת הַחוֹמֶשׁ. ״כִּי יֹאכַל״ — פְּרָט לְמַזִּיק. אָמַר רַבִּי יִרְמְיָה אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: זָר

**William Davidson Edition - English:**
Similarly, **Rabbi Yirmeya said** that **Reish Lakish said: A non-priest who ate *teruma* in an excessive manner pays the principal,** that which he took, **and does not pay the** additional **fifth,** which one who illegally eats *teruma* pays to the priest as a penalty. This is because it states about one who eats *teruma*: “And **if** a man **eat** of the sacred thing in error, then he shall add a fifth to it, and give the priest the sacred thing” (Leviticus 22:14). The word “eat” **excludes** one who is not eating but **harming** himself. He does, however, pay the principal, since he caused a loss to the priest. The fifth is only paid by one who eats normally, not excessively. Similarly, **Rabbi Yirmeya said** that **Rabbi Yoḥanan said: A non-priest**