# <![CDATA[S8, E2 Jerusalem and Athens: God-Centered vs. Human-Centered Governance, 02]]>

From **The Great Sources with Rabbi Shnayor Burton** by R Shnayor Burton.

- **Published:** Tue, 03 Sep 2024 03:06:52 GMT
- **Duration:** 00:54:59
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<![CDATA[<p>This lecture series is a project of כרם בין תורה לחכמה, generously sponsored by R' Yoel Werzberger
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<p>Highlights:</p>
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2:15 What is achieved by humans thinking in non-human terms?
4:15 Humans are the most important aspect of reality; viewing the world from God's perspective involves viewing humanity accurately
8:30 The actions are God can be understood only by understanding humans
12:00 God is good only if humans are good
16:00 By bringing things back to God's perspective, we simultaneously value the way things are and remain open to progress
18:00 The tension between progressivism and conservativism 
22:00 God's will as the ultimate constant that allows for infinite progress
30:45 The Golden Mean as the way of God
33:10 Finding law within human behavior brings human behavior back to God
35:45 A person cannot know the ways of God without knowing himself
37:25 The prophets call God righteous and thereby make Him righteous, since humans, His ultimate creation, will be inspired to be righteous, making Him righteous
40:00 The difference between the philosophers and the prophets about whether human perfection involves intellectual perfection or moral perfection
47:20 What makes the Torah divine: the connection between ordering society and thinking about God</p>
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