# My Corporate Job Was Meaningless | How Yoni Schwartz Found His Calling

From **Shtark Tank with Yaakov Wolff** by Yaakov Wolff.

- **Published:** Mon, 08 Dec 2025 05:10:00 GMT
- **Duration:** 00:52:59
- **Audio:** https://anchor.fm/s/e45c8048/podcast/play/112279183/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-7%2F413930836-44100-2-94e5e006f6384.mp3
- **Page:** https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/yaakov-wolff/episodes/My-Corporate-Job-Was-Meaningless--How-Yoni-Schwartz-Found-His-Calling-e3c106f
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<p>What do you do when your day job feels empty — but you still need to show up, provide, and stay honest?</p><p>In this episode of <strong>Shtark Tank</strong>, I sit down with my cousin and friend <strong>Yoni Schwartz</strong> — Head of Data Science at Exponential and Head Producer of <strong>Living L’chaim</strong>. Yoni shares how he went from a corporate role that felt like “a complete lack of purpose” to leading <strong>10 shows</strong> that have inspired and helped countless people. He is also the host of <a href="https://www.livinglchaim.com/shows/spirit-of-the-song" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Spirit of the Song podcast</a>, make sure to check it out!</p><p>We talk about meaning, ambition, family, and the real-life tradeoffs of building something big <strong>on top of</strong> a demanding day job.</p><p><strong>In this conversation we cover:</strong></p><ul><li><p>What it feels like when work is steady… but meaningless</p></li><li><p>How Yoni first joined Living L’chaim and how the role grew over time</p></li><li><p>The ethics of balancing a primary job with major side projects</p></li><li><p>Startup life vs. corporate life — and what actually changed for him</p></li><li><p>How he manages two intense roles without a rigid system</p></li><li><p>The idea of <strong>intentionality</strong> as a survival tool for busy people</p></li><li><p>Setting boundaries after COVID blurred everything</p></li><li><p>Early morning learning as a realistic anchor for fathers with young kids</p></li><li><p>The impact Living L’chaim aims for — inspiration, mental health, and financial clarity</p></li><li><p>Cultivating a relationship with your Rebbi</p></li></ul><p><strong>Key takeaway:</strong><br>You don’t need a perfect system to juggle a lot — but you do need honesty, priorities, and intentional choices you can live with.</p><p>If this episode resonated, please take a moment to <strong>follow the show</strong> and leave a <strong>5-star rating</strong>. It helps more Bnei Torah in the workforce find these conversations.</p><p><strong>Guest:</strong> Yoni Schwartz<br><strong>Host:</strong> Yaakov Wolff</p><p></p>